[riot-devel] rfq commercial additions to riot-os

Thomas C. Schmidt t.schmidt at haw-hamburg.de
Wed Nov 1 00:06:32 CET 2017


Hi Richard,

here is the other Thomas again.

On 31/10/2017 23:41, Richard Klingler wrote:

> So you're saying a node can participate even with two networks at the same time?
> Anyway...
> 

Yes, RIOT can handle multiple network interfaces and can speak with 
arbitrary neighbors from its neighbor cache.

> But what we a re mainly looking is to external manpower with a deeper
> riot-os knowledge to implement our needed features....
> 
> Either sponsoring to the project if a feature is of everyones interest
> or to a company doing specific features which is applicable mostly to our needs.
> 
> Do you know of any company having knowledge/time/ doing such stuff?
>There are quite a number of people that (a) are generally working on 
advancing RIOT and (b) some are available for doing additional freelance 
work. So we should be able to help you in some way.

Best,
  Thomas

> 
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:35:52 -0700, Thomas Eichinger wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> On 31 Oct 2017, at 14:42 PDT(-0700), Richard Klingler wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm.. I see you sometimes joining/leaving #riot-os (o;
>> That might be me, different Thomas. ;)
>>
>>> Yes the different networks is very interesting...and definitively a
>>> need....
>>> not sure if it is easily done like adding a second interface on UNIX
>>> with a simple ifconfig (o;
>>
>> Having two network interfaces is already possible with RIOT as well
>> as RIOT provides
>> a ifconfig command for configuration.
>>
>>> The button thing...don't have to be a button..and is also not always
>>> possible...
>>>
>>> Let's say you want to deploy a new network....
>>>
>>> Idea is like all nodes have a default PAN as the firmware is all the
>>> same (more or less).
>>>
>>> You start deploying the network from the border router away by
>>> pressing a button
>>> which tells it to start a join procedure....for example by
>>> broadcasting on that PAN
>>> a message like "who ever wants to joing my new network with PAN ID
>>> xxx, you have 5
>>> minutes time"....
>>>
>>> Then on the the next node you press also a button, which then
>>> listens on the
>>> default PAN and accepts then the new PAN advertised by the router node...
>>>
>>> A leave would be then like pressing the button for 5
>>> seconds...putting it back
>>> into the default PAN....
>>
>> If I understand your scenario correctly, what you are suggesting
>> involves a 802.15.4
>> coordinator announcing PAN or channel changes and/or manages hardware
>> addresses.
>>
>> I started a discussion on this topic recently but for now RIOT is
>> still missing these
>> "runtime" features.
>>
>> Please be aware though that, to the best of my knowledge, nothing in
>> the standard keeps
>> a device from starting to communicate on a certain channel with a
>> certain PAN ID at any
>> point in time.
>>
>> Best,
>> Thomas
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:28:09 +0100, Thomas C. Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for sharing your thoughts on the list!
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I fully understand your requirements, but believe that
>>>> some are generically interesting for RIOT, e.g., running several/many
>>>> 802.15.4 networks in parallel.
>>>>
>>>> What about this join/leave button?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>   Thomas
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2017 22:14, Richard Klingler wrote:
>>>>> Evnin' from \.ch (o;
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of you from #riot-os already know some backgrounds...
>>>>>
>>>>> I work for a company doing sanitary devices (basically anything
>>>>> controlling water)
>>>>> with IoT capabilities...currently WLAN/Ethernet connection only...
>>>>>
>>>>> To extend our portfolio we would like to switch over to 802.15.4
>>>>> network...
>>>>> Target areas would be for example hospitals with hundres od WSN
>>>>> nodes per building.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past I tested so far contiki, skipped totally tinyos and ended up
>>>>> with an easily setup riot-os network at home...which was the base to
>>>>> present to our CEO...
>>>>>
>>>>> We have already assigned a local company to do a WSN but they failed
>>>>> after half year to deliver
>>>>> anything useful. That's why I always kept a back plan from the
>>>>> beginning evaluating
>>>>> open source solutions...
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the OK today to ask here on this list for external men power
>>>>> to extend
>>>>> the already great riot-os capabilities with special features we
>>>>> would need
>>>>> to be successful in commercial/industrial fields, mainly:
>>>>>
>>>>> - run independant wsn side by side with not interfering each other
>>>>> - simple joining/leaving a node to/from a PAN with simple button press
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like early as possible..speaking...within two weeks (o;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks in advance for listening and
>>>>> for the already great riot-os (o;
>>>>>
>>>>> davorin@#riot-os
>>>>> richard
>>>>>
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